Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
How you guys say they don't stand a chance? Do you know for a fact that Castillo doesn't hit as hard as Duran? Or Corrales hits as hard as Hearns? Do you have evendential proof? These guys are as big as DUran or Hearns, but they have better weight lifting methods today, and they have tremendous power. Castillo IMO could take many of Duran's punches before he would be ko'ed, and I don't think that Duran is all that much better... Castillo proved he is better against a mover vs. Floyd than Duran was against Leonard.
Did you have evidential proof that Floyd is faster then Ray?Or that he is better on the inside than Ray? Nope but judging from what we have seenand I'm guessing most guys have seen ALOT of Duran and Heanrs etc and ALL the top fighters they took on,they can make these assumptions quite confidently. In what way is Corrales better than Hearns? None whatsoever and hey,go and watch Chico v Cas one I think it is,Corrales in a pre fight interview said he was like a mini Hearns but no where near as good. and Castillo himself would admit he is nowhere near as good as Duran! Weight lifting methods? Dude,thats a weak point!!! How do we even know Corrales,Castillo etc do weights for a FACT?

Facts are facts,Duran,Heanrs etc fought a higher level of opposition than JLC Chico ever have and ever will,they moved up more weight classes and for crying out loud,just look at their records dude!


Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
It's really simple, the style of fighters that JLC and Corrales are make for easy work for Duran who brawled toe to toe with Hagler, Leonard who was too quick for either of them...you think Mayweather Jr. beat them badly that would pale in comparison to what Ray would do because he had legit power at 147, Hearns....well to say that either of them would survive Tommy is just idiotic.

Julio Cesar Chavez would also whip both of them

I think this whole evolution bullcrap is just that.....bullcrap. We're not talking about if they fought RIGHT NOW but prime for prime the weight classes haven't changed too much, the training and being able to drop more weight has but I think even considering how much weight Chico and JLC drop for fights they don't have the stamina the old guys had....15 rounds that's what I'm talking about right there.

No one is saying that AVERAGE fighters from the 80's would beat these guys...although with style matchups I'm sure you could find one ESPECIALLY for Chico (who doesn't like slick southpaws).
Quote Originally Posted by Realitycheck77
I’m not sure if your referring to me, but what I said was look at Castillo v Mayweather, if Castillo could do that to Mayweather then Duran would murder Mayweather.

And yes 100 % Castillo and Corrales would also lose to Duran, some people only look at Duran’s aggression and offensive approach, but consider this, throughout his whole career Duran barley got a mark on his face, he was also a defensive master, probably the best in the business to slip a punch.

I have nothing against Corrales, Castillo or Mayweather, but none of these would stand a chance with Duran, Leonard or Hagler. What concerns me is when someone say’s Castillo hits as hard as Duran, I then think I’m either talking with someone who is biased towards a particular fighter or someone who doesn’t know there boxing as well as they think.

Excellent posts.
Now thats crap the average 80's fighter wouldn't stand a chance against Chico or Castillo... thats pure BS. And Floyd is faster than Leonard and my proof that I've watched their fights at 1/13 normal speed and I've timed how long it takes of their punches to fully extend.