Quote Originally Posted by SeanE
Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
What are you guys talking about? How is Roy Jones Jr. not crafty? He wasn't just a some god blessed man who had no talent... we've seen plenty of them who have had the physical gifts, but no actual skill, and Roy Jones Jr. wasn't as good as he was simply on his god given gifts if you will. He is a very good offensive fighter who may be the most brilliant offense fighter ever. He feints as well as anyone, he can figure his opponent out usually in the first round, and I admit his physical skills did interfere with his defense, but I believe that he is only in trouble defensively if an opponent can pressure him, and stay in front of him. Bernard Hopkins used to be such a man, but I am not sure if he still has it in him. Roy Jones Jr. is the craftier fighter, and I believe that if they box instead of fight that he is too good for Hopkins who only became a true boxer in his mid 30's while Roy has been a boxer since he was a teenager.
Allow me to clarify, Taeth, because you bring up a good point. He obviously had SOME skill, and yes, he know some tricks, offensively. You correctly admit that he has issues with defense. Yup, big issues, and those have gotten him KO's by his last few real opponents. As for his offensive mojo, any craftiness was based around his ungodly speed. When he trys those tricks now, he just himself in trouble. So he's not really crafty anymore.
He still has ungodly speed in terms of handspeed though, and the reason Glen Johnson was successful against him was that Glenn Johnson came through his punches and was able to apply constant pressure on a Roy JOnes Jr. who couldn't hit as hard. Tarver just got a lucky shot, and in the third fight whenever Roy threw punches he was completely overwhelming Tarver, and same with in the first fight when he threw punches. Tarver only beat Roy because Roy didn't throw any punches for 90% of the time, but if he when he does throw punches like he did against Badi I think Bernard is in trouble because Roy is far more polished and still a little quicker than JT who's speed many times didn't allow Bernard to counter, and Roy still has fast reflexes, and unless Bernard could apply pressure like the younger b-hop could I can't see him winning like I've said a few times because Roy is simply a better fighter on the outside, and I still see almost nobody beating him on the outside.