Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
He changed the landscape but the dispicable things he did are never talked about....doesn't make Joe Frazier feel better, George Foreman is just resiliant he calls Ali his hero and the best boxer he's ever fought.....inspite of being mocked by "the greatest"


Why is a lack of humiliaty all of a sudden a great trait as soon as Ali rolls around?

If that's the case then Jack Johnson is the greatest! Or "I'll lick any man in the room" John L Sullivan!


Or if Draft dodging is what makes a great then Jack Dempsey is the best!!!
Come on Lyle, you know Ali is so much more then that. The draft wasn't so much about saving his own ass as it was making a statement and it was a HUGE statement at that. One of the most important statements of the war. It wasn't some hippie putting a peace sign on the flag, it was the world champion giving the government the finger when they needed it.

And everyone knows Ali belittled his opponents. It was borderline cruel some of the stuff he did, especially carrying on an old Patterson with a bad back but it's part of what makes Ali what he is. No one is going around saying Ali is the definition of sportsmanship. He was a fast talking young black Muslim who probably belonged in a straight jacket. That's what everyone loves about him. He was a rebel with a cause if you will. Not to mention the guy was a wonder in the ring.