Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Regarding Trinidad in comparison to Mayweather.
First off, much respect to Trinidad, he definitely did take on tough guys as he moved up. In fact, his undoing was that he bit off more than he could chew, fighting Hopkins in only his second fight at 160, only two years after he had been fighting at 147. Trinidad definitely fought the top guys out there.

But how is Mayweather not fighting the best? He's moving up to 154, a new weight class, and fighting DLH. Can someone name a fighter at 154 who is better than DLH? I can't think of one.
Trinidad's first fight at 154 was against David Reid, who had 14 pro fights under his belt and had fought poorly in his last few bouts before facing Trinidad. Does anyone think that David Reid was a tougher opponent than DLH?
Trinidad's second fight at 154 was against Mamadou Thiam. Was Thiam any better than the guys Mayweather has fought recently?
Ok, you baited me in.

Tito fought those guys and then Vargas all in that 1 year period when he moved up. I give Floyd credit for taking the fight with Oscar especially since it's at 154 but how long did we have to wait for this and how long will we have to wait for him to fight another meaningful fight? I can't help it....I'm just not one of those guys that buys into hype and believes that someone is the best just cause HBO or so-called experts say he is. I have to see it in the ring against great, hungry opposition and not these hopeless guys he's been fighting.

The thing Floyd's fans need to understand is that nobody's is denying his skill. Right away Floyd fans say things like "but who has your guy fought or this or that" but the bottom line is that those other guys are not calling themselves p4p #1 and saying they are better than SRR and Ali.............(sorry, I needed a few seconds to chuckle) and he always has an excuse on why he shouldn't fight them. Any fighter that takes on that p4p status has to realize that it comes with extra responsibility like fighting top tier fighters to prove you belong where you are.

Not only did he do it right after he got the recognition, but he didn't even do it to get the recognition. Atleast no in the ring.
ThTA SECOND PARAGRAPH IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME BRO! cc! That is what I have been saying from the beginning!

And sweetpea,sorry,my entire post was not aimed at you,I was in a rush,I should have been clearer.

Do not get me wrong,I give Floyd credit for taking the Oscar fight but its a fight Oscar will not win,for various reasons(look at his track record IN HIS PRIME v Pernell,Shane,Sturms jab etc) and his rustiness. When Floyd wins,I'll give im credit for sure but you can bet your last $$$ that there will be boxing fans here ranting hes the best ever etc when a win over Oscar does NOT show that.

To get my respect,he needs to go to 147,and clean it out. There are LOADS of good fighters,hungry,young and I'm not just talking about Margarito,theres Cotto,Mosley etc. TO PROVE YOU ARE THE BEST,YOU BEAT THE BEST and if you look at Floyds fights at 140 and 147,that just has not been the case. All the aforementioned fighters are better names than anyone Floyd has fought. Castillo had losses when Floyd fought him,why was it not brought up then? Corley,Ndou etc etc they are DECENT fighters,nowhere near Margarito,Cotto,Williams etc.