Quote Originally Posted by landmine950
Ya gee! lets just phone Evander Holyfield
hey call Madona.Micheal jackson and President Bush while were at it!
The reporters said they called him from the information
they say the helpfull police let them dig through! COME ON!!!

no where in my post did i say or "let on" that Evander was great.
I wouldn't disagree with the Gatti argument. Esp if Gatti was fighting at cruiserwieght.

HE did stand in and compete with the VERY best the Division had to offer at the time. even if it was Moorer,ruiz etc.
He outworked bigger guys...thats about all...and he could take a really good whack! Tyson whacked him a few really good ones.
He was disciplined. Against Tyson he "GLUED" his right hand to the side of his head and didn't drop it.
Stayed in shape......I dunno.....he was good maybe very good....great I dunno...
I think his achievement are looked upon more favorably because he was small...sort of the opposite of Valuev now



we agree on most aspects of your post, except the sources being non-credible cause both you and i know they were

i never said he wasnt "good." i always said he wasnt close to the "all time great" status that so many feel that he was. hence, he is over-rated

yes, he was sometimes VERY exciting and a crowd pleaser, but wasnt gatti kinda the same? how many people consider gatti an all time great? holyfield?

gatti was more exciting, and was a much better champion. evander holyfield was a media darling who could do no wrong, exciting at times, but a horrible champion (look at his record)




but most importantly, EVANDER HOLYFIELD WAS ON STEROIDS!!!