u are both probably write in some ways the way i see it is that if roy jones jr was to take a fight in mma he would give himself maybe six months of hard takedown defence training and ground defence if he had any talent at all in wresling then i could see him making himself into a ufc champion yes if he went in without thought he probably would get taken down but if you look at how hard he trains for boxing why wouldnt he train that hard to avoid getting taken down. this whole argument about boxers having no takedown defence is stupid becouse thats just assuming that their stupid. Tyson with decent takedown defence would murder people in the ufc like u said the new champions are strikers who have good ground defence the ref stands u back up and its lights out. im a striker primarilly but i dont look like a fish out of water if i get taken down