Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Wow...all that cursing & so little substance. What a chicken S*** answer that was. You need to break out that giant sombrero & hide up underneath.
Well read between the lines Wacko. What I meant was....

If Nicolay Valuev fought Wladimir Klitschko it would mean Nicolay would be fighting the best boxer, hardest puncher, fastest puncher, biggest fighter, and best athlete of his whole career whereas Wladimir would just be fighting the biggest fighter he's ever fought and as Ray Austin and others have found out Wladimir doesn't have trouble with taller fighters.

As for Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney....Dempsey didn't fight black fighters, he had 5 title defenses. Gene Tunney did a great job at 175 and only had a few fights at heavyweight. Great fighters though by all means but I think Rocky and Louis are better
Tunney would have beaten Louis and Marciano. Louis went life and death with another light heavy in Billy Conn who was nowhere near Tunney's league and Marciano struggled with Ezzard Charles, another light heavy to say nothing of that fact that he should have lost to La Starza.

Marciano and Louis were fortunate enough to rule in the wekaest era's of boxing history. Jack Johnson would have schooled them both, Ali would have made Louis look foolish and would have tired out and knocked out Marciano.

Look at Marciano's record, his biggest win was over a 38 Walcott who needed 4 attempts to win a world title himself. He was the oldest ever heavyweight champ until Foreman regained the title in the 90's and nobody on earth would regard the 90's George Foreman as being anywhere near his prime.. A prime Walcott would have beaten Marciano FACT, La Starza would have beaten him if there had not been that weird supplemental points system in place during their fight FACT.

Joe Louis only ever beat Max Schmelling, and got knocked out by him first time around. There are no other great genuine heavyweight names on his record, just light heavies like Billy Conn.

They are both the two most overratted boxers in the history of the sport.