Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I sparred with this bloke back in 92 named Lionel Butler I think his record was 9 wins and 10 losses. I never been hit so hard in my life ! LOL. I thought to myself " who the hell beat this SOB " ? LOL .. a few days of sparring and I finally got the best of him, but damn he could deliver he had top power. and good sharp delivery, I learned a great deal from him .
Fuck me!!!
Lords Gym it's crazy how somehow I know what the fuck! or who the fuck you talk about.....
Butler used to fight a lot out here in Los Angeles, I remember that name cause my uncle has a programme of when he wen't to see Rafael Ruelas fight if my memory serves me right (which isn't really working right now cause I' trying to remember that Orzbek guy) Ruelas fought Robert Rivera. Butlers name is on the programme though I think thats him Lionel Butler....
He was about 5"11 6"0 and 220 ish I would say . I really can't remember all the details on him , only that his record , and what I was getting in offensive production from the man, didn't add up ! hehe a few days into sparring I found his weakness was pressure. , Butler didn’t like being pressed and would give up first on the inside , thus allowing you to back him up.. on his heels he couldn’t get off, however when allowed to march forward he was a machine .
Spot on man!! Thanks for sharing that with us, always a nice treat to read your talks about the sport....


Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Quote Originally Posted by beerjelly
Sadly most fighters with unbeaten records, too many are over protected and too afraid to lose that 0. Far to many to mention.
I m interested in seeing a few on your list....

Heres a few off my list...
Pavlik
Hatton
Paul Williams
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Joe C.
Juan Diaz
Dont agree with 2 of those names ( obviously ) but i promise you Dinziruk is not an overated fight he is quality .

He completely did a job on Santos he cut the ring down and had Santos on the back foot ( Ok Santos is a backfoot fighter ) with a look of desperation .

He looked as if he was fighting with a Shotgun to his head .
CC#29
I won't argue with you cause I've only seen 2 full fights of his and highlights so I'll take your word for it.....