Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds
Quote Originally Posted by Olympian904
Chuck Liddell is a "striker"...and he got KO'd by Quinton Jackson who is a mediocre boxer.So even if it took place in an Octagon...I'd have Liddell losing b/c he is not a wrestler nor a submission guy.
Chuck was a collegeiate wrestler at Cal Poly State for four years....Chuck did lose to Quinton but it wasn't b/c of Rampage's tremendous boxing. Rampage has no amateur or pro boxing background. He too was a HS and JC wrestler. Just b/c Chuck doesn't utilize his wrestling background in his offense doesn't mean he isn't skilled on the ground. The fact that he has one of the best takedown defenses and abilities to stand a fight back up is a testament to his wrestling skills. Jackson wore him down and pounded the S*** out of him on the ground and in the clinch to secure the win via TKO (corner stopped the fight). Do a little homework next time.
1st of all Rampage trained with the Roger Mayweather for 4 months back in 2004.His stand up game was far better than Chucks.Yes they both were collegiate wrestlers but Chucks wrestling skills arent dominant.Chuck got rocked the entire fight! So WTF are you talking about him getting worn down,etc...You can take any boxer and teach him a basic sprawl b/c Chuck is not gonna get a submission.
Maybe you should think before you speak.
Actually CHAMP Your a little off on this one, Quinton is my favorite MMA guy and I have seen the fight quite a few times and I'll post it here... Rampage wore Chuck down and he took quite a few shots from Chuck in the process... The key was to jump all over Chuck and not let him create distance to extend and get good leverage on his punches...

Sprawling is not as easy as you may think, its not something you learn in an 1 hour session of Grappling class, its a whole other technique and an integral part of Grappling since it takes tremendous balance, awareness and sensitivity to make yourself heavy and like a tree that is rooted 6ft in the ground, and if you do get taken down how to position yourself to get right back up again without allowing your opponent to get superior position on you

I cant stand Chuck Lidell and get frustrated cause he is an excellent grappler who is content with Kickboxing in a world that is so multi dimensional... But at the same time I respect him cause he is so predictable and yet no one has been able to expose him since Rampage did, I'm picking Jackson again but its not gonna be as easy as the 1st time..

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