Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Quote Originally Posted by irish rover
Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan


Oh, I think Floyd will be considered "a great" alright. I think he's considered "a great" already. But IMO, he won't be considered an all-time p4p great, because the career-defining battles are just not there. And please do not include last night's fight as a career-defining fight.
Did you read all of my post? I agree 100% with you. That's what I am saying, he has tremendous defense and movement but he is just not exciting enough to watch or ever been in any truly great figths to be considered a p4p all time great. But fighting Cotto, Mosley, Hatton or whoever wont change that. Floyd will still fight his way, running and taking pop shots. Those fights wont make him anymore of a great. Im just saying it is his decision and he feels it is the time to retire and although I am not happy about it I can see his point.
Oh, it's definitely his decision. And if it has to do with the condition of his hands, it's more than warranted. No question about that. My point to Floyd is: Don't overstate your achievements. To be considered an all-time great, you have to fight the absolute best out there. Floyd has fought some great opposition, but some of it has been under less than ideal conditions. To say that beating a 34-year old De la Hoya, in a split decision no less, automatically qualifies you as an all-time p4p....... well.... I've got my reserves about that.
Man you guys took the words out of my mouth. I actually think the fight did not live up to the hype. No defining moment al all. Pop shots from Mayweather and flurries from OLDH. That's all. No buckled knees. No knockdowns. No drama. Be honest. Let us compare this fight with Castillo - Corrales. Now that was a fight.