What the fuck is up with these new people?

[JT Rock]

First of all if kurt kobains ghost hasn't killed me yet, i can be cursed by no man. Secondly all i'm saying is they hyped these guys up like they were the S*** but they never beat a legit heavyweight boxer. Most boxers would beat all the other martial arts styles in a fight (with the exception of kickboxing and muai thai). Why didn't they have tyson, lewis, holyfield, or even Vitali who was a very good regarded kickboxer by that time in the "ultimate tournament to end all tournaments"? They developed a style that won that tournament good for them that should've been the end to it thats all im saying.

Alright, I will apologize for the insults... But please I would appreciate your input on The research you have done on the Gracie family and there legacy and there origins  Like I said if you think they are "Clowns" than after careful research you have arrived at that opinion of them being "Clowns"

Was probably more or less a bad word choice (They represent in essense the whole mma thing redirected anger is all that is). But i can't see jui jitsu or Brazillian jui jitsu working in a real street fight (in a fight where someone quits in a controled setting where a ref breaks it up than sure) because i know you've seen one of those fights just like i have where one guys says "Ok i'm done" and as soon as the other guy lets him up, he jumps his a** and keeps going lol. It probably works in countries where theres a sense of honor in fighting but i don't think it'd work in america. Also i'm not a fan of mixing everything its like watching a collegiate wrestling match where you don't have to wrestle you can just punch them or you can take them to the ground in a boxing match. Just doesn't sit well with me.

Not to be a dick but I thought that would be your response..... So I will tell you since I have trained in some aspects of Gracie Ju Jitsu... My instructor worked very close with the Gracie Family back in the 90's and was the 1st to bring them to the east coast

http://www.psdtc.com/Ron_Kosakowski_Bio.htm

Let me tell you the premise of Grappling and Submissions.... most Street fights and scuffles end on the ground, a submission is a form of pain compliance which if continuosly applied, results in muscle, tendon and ligament destructions and bone breaks which severly incapacitates an attacker thats why they Tap out for sport purposes.... Thats why it is EXTREMELY effective for street fighting and self defense....