
Originally Posted by
Punisher136

Originally Posted by
VanChilds
Punisher, MMA as we know it today is still early in its inception. The overall athleticism and skill level of its fighters has risen astronomicaly since the first UFC. All fighters work on BJJ now, and all fighters work on takedowns and takedown defense. This is b/c of the dominance that sub artists and GNPers have had in the past. Over the past couple of years we have seen a shift to great strikers that can keep fights standing. I'd expect to see the punching and kicking of MMA fighters improving as well. I still maintain that even with a fighter that has a good boxing background his mma style will still be one with strong differences from boxing and probably still not that appealing to boxing fans. The basic premise of hit and not be hit are still there but w/some important augmentations. I personally enjoy the idea of a total combatant as a sport and have enjoyed watching the sports metamorphisis, but to each his own. When the question of what technique is the best for real world situations, I tell people that Muay Thai mixed with Judo would probably be the best. It offers a striking style with lots of variety and Judo is going to give you the skill set to control your opponent in the clinch. I'm I going to try a knee lock in a bar fight? Probably not, but my training in submission wrestling would help me with controlling my opponent in the close quarters of a real fight. I've never used a joint manipulation in a real fight but I have choked a couple of guys unconscious.
Choking people out is alittle different than submissions (thats the "stun" level i was thinking about) thats probably the best alternative for someone trained in those aspects. I'd say some good boxing and just being in a situation before where you've had to fight while on the ground would help dispatch your average drunken dude who's just talking S*** (and really thats what the majority of people's street opponents are gonna be). I'm sure its a whole different story when that drunk dude is an all state wrestler and has dabbled in some other stuff tho. First time i got taken to the ground in the street it wasn't a total disaster because i remained calm and knew how i was gonna flip him over (huge strength advantage didn't hurt there) but I'm sure if i run into someone who's trained in that stuff its not gonna help me much but it'd be better than not going thru it before.
Most bars I go to or outings are pretty tight quarters, and creating distance is a problem to get full leverage on a punch to deter someone, that were Elbows, Knees, headbutts and eye jabs come in.. or the wrist lock...
I am 195 lbs and can escape the mount from someone who is heavier than me or I can also maintain side control or the mount on bigger guys than me.... We get alot of Rough and tumble badasses roided up muscle heads, cops, military personal all types that try to impose there size and strength, but learn very quickly that proper technique always champions strength....
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