Quote Originally Posted by Fire
First, all of you are missing the point that with age it is getting TO HARD for Pavlik to make weight... i would like for him to stay at 160 also but if he cant, he cant.. i know he can do it the hopkins way but its unhealthy to stay at that weight year after year..

second, Calzaghe didnt break his hand after the manfredo fight he hurt it, there is a difference

third, i'm getting tired of everyone that wants to act like they know calzaghe to say he slaps.. yes some of his combos that are meant for scoring are little more than slaps but to say thats the extent of his power is just plain bias or dumb.. look at lacy's face for god sake 5000 slaps wouldnt do that to him... And I'm not saying that he hits you with a ton of bricks but he is far from a malignaggi type power like you all imply

next Pavlik is the biggest enigma i have seen in boxing for years..
his power, his underrated chin (he wont be knocked down for years), nobody knows just how good he can be if he keeps improving head movement, etc., he is better at defence than what it appears, he just doest have good defence technique, he purposely uses offence for defence very well..

pavlik-taylor: Pavlik has beat zertuche and miranda; taylor has beat b-hop twice and drew with winky when they were top p4p fighters
that being said to favor pavlik over taylor would be hard..
like i said pavlik is an enigma to me against calzaghe it would be hard to favor pavlik over a proven p4per

But i do know that a kessler-pavlik match would be out right war probably the most bloody, throw back fight that could be made... even more so that cotto-margo cause pavlik-kess has better chins

I know i'm a new poster and i completely respect the posters on here.. most of whom know more about boxing than me.. I hope i didnt step on to many toes...
Yes he did break them in Manfredo fight and its just figure of speech when i say he slaps i know his fighting style and he does slap alot he doesn't get full power into his punches and you would be surprised what 5000 hard slaps would do