i would like to remind you why the philly shell defense or the shoulder roll style was invented/made.

it was taught to some fighters in the philadelphia area by some brothers, i forgotten who. it was taught also to the mayweathers too. these guys wanted to use an effective style for when they get older and there legs arnt all that. where they could stand infront of the opponents and defend themselves effectively. this consists of head movement (upperbody movement), shoulder roll, hand postioning (to protect the bodyetc) and other certain moves. i have almost all of toneys fights and he does it the best. anyone who says b-hop uses the philly shell can go back to sleep, cos he dusnt.

i knew mayweather will win the dela hoya fight cos of this defense. difference between toney and mayweather in style is, mayweather runs alot, he only uses the defense when he has to, when he gets trapped on the ropes or when he gets tired and stands infront of opponents (he used it beautifully against baldomir). Toney uses this defense properly, no running or anything. and he has proved he is one of th best fighters that has ever lived, fought the most dangerous fighters out there in every division he fought in. this might sound crazy but it aint, i think toney would have given hell to joe louis. watch louis's fight against walcott, he was dropped twice with the shoulder roll counter, jus imagine what toney would do to louis, worse to what he did to holyfield imo.

also the main p4p fighters and future p4p fighters use this style.
toney, mayweather, guzman, paul williams just to name a few.