I don't see a high punch out put, but just to have these two in the ring together will make the fight dramatic and tense. It'll be two master boxers trying to see whose gameplan is more effective. I think Bernard will beat Winky, he'll make Winky come to him and counter him enuff to win the fight. He'll probably rock Winky a couple times too, hopefully put him on his ass. Hopkins UD is the way I see it.