I have been watching some fights from both guys that have been posted on here.....I have watched both before of course. I have got to say, Joe has handspeed that is unmatched by anyone in his wieght class......possibly ever. On top of that, he has fairly heavy hands for his speed.... None of that Kassim Ouma stuff (although I like Kassim). His hands may break but experiene and skill will carry him through..