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But consider this. Mayweather accomodating his own needs, may well be the factor that determines his legacy. As he has never been an all action fighter he longevity is less likely to be affected. He can go on another 5 years if he wants as his style allows him too. In fact it is constantly improving as the more expierience he gains the better he becomes. Compare Roy Jones' and Mayweathers careers. As Bilbo stated, they both have the ability to look magnificent when opposed by fighters who appear a class below them. However there is a large difference. Jones worked them over and Knocke them out. Mayweather dominated them for every single second of every round. He boxed their respective ears of....And thats every fight without exception.

In addition, i feel that Mayweather has indeed face the better opposition or at least performed better aginst their parallell opponents.
I mean Roy did some great things to some great fighters....B-Hop and Toney need i say more! But Strangely enough they were two fighters that Took Roy the distance, his greatest feats at middleweight his second weight division (he started at Lm).
And....strangely enough Mayweather stopped one of his best opponents, at his second weight...What he did to Corrales was jaw dropping. (I have rated Corales over Castillo here and im sure il have a knife to my throat later for saying it!)

So don't be so swift to say Roy, he was great no doubt, but i think that Mayweather is building the greater Castle of Memories and will have the larger Jacuzzi in his HoF penthouse.
Mayweather didn't dominate Castillo in there first or second fight, in fact some people believe he even lost the first. And he didn't dominate Oscar De La Hoya either.

But Mayweather's best opponents don't come close to matching up with Roy's. Diego Corrales(R.I.P.) doesn't come anywhere near the legacy of a Bernard Hopkins or a James Toney. Toney and Hopkins are boxers who have had great success in multiple weight classes, while Corrales only found success at lightweight. And when he did try to move up he got starched by Joshua Clottey.
True that Mayweather didn't dominate Castillo in their first meeting, but everyone has their nightmare nights.
See Roy vs. Montell Griffin 1. Mayweather really did beat Castillo in the rematch.
In reply to your comment on oscar, i feel that Pbf did a good job against the naturally much much bigger Oscar. Asking Mayweather to KO Oscar would have been the equivalent of Asking Roy to Ko John Ruiz, and no way in hell was that happening.

In relation to ur comments on Toney and Hopkins. Yes these two enjoyed great success in multiple weight classes....AFTER they had been beaten by Jones.
SAying the legacy's of these respective fighters was greater than that of Corrales is easy to say but incorrect when taken in context.
Hopkins had nowhere near peaked, he had never been world champion and his legacy will be based on how he changed AFTER the Jones fight. After the jones fight he became greta. Toney was a great Middleweight but again his success was at higher weights after the loss to Jones.
Corrales had already been champ before he met Mayweather.
What use is bringing Clottey into it? Did Corrales not redeem himself enough with the Castillo fight. Would you have preferred he had taken a more elongated beating?
Mayweather beat Castillo in their rematch but he far from dominated. If you want to use Montell Griffin as an example than see Jones Jr. vs. Griffin II. That is what domination looks like. I also disagree that asking a jr. lightweight(Floyd) to knockout a jr. middleweight(Oscar) is the same as asking a middleweight(Roy) to knockout a heavyweight(John).

Toney was a middleweight and super middleweight champ BEFORE he even fought Jones not after. And why hadn't Hopkins peaked? Besides a loss in his pro debut he was perfect until he met Jones. And after his loss to Jones, he didn't lose a fight until he fought Taylor, controversial as it was. So I don't see anything in there to indicate he peaked after he met Roy. He was a good fighter before and he was a good fighter after the Roy Jones Jr. fight. Because he loss to Jones Jr. doesn't mean he hadn't peaked it just means he faced a better fighter on that day. Jones was 21-0 and Hopkins was 22-1 when they fought, it wasn't like Hopkins was facing Jones after 5 fights.

What use is bringing Clottey into it? The Clottey fight lets you know that Corrales was a good lightweight, but that isn't comparable to say a Toney who was a good middleweight, supermiddleweight, cruiserweight, etc. As far as redeeming himself or taking a more elongated beating, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Why would Corrales need to redeem himself, he had one of the biggest hearts in boxing? And as far as a more elongated beating, I don't have any idea what fight you are referring to.