Yea and also about Greb he beat up Dempsey in a sparing exhibition and I think people forget that even though he lost 3 times to Tunney all were closer then the Dempsey fights and he had over 20 pounds on Greb and was the heavyweight champion. Also a lot of people think he was cheated out of his fights with Tiger Flowers Pluse with 299 fights and winning 260 of them is i think a record not sure though also CC for taking the time.