Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I think nothing of him...He is a protected fighter that will stay clear of any dangerous opp if at all possible...

His biggest wins are over Hacine Cherif and Robert Frazier
Those aren't his biggest wins...their just the names that you recognize & to say that he is S***...well that just proves that you haven't seen enough of him.

Sure you can have that opinion...but don't lable those two as his biggest wins.

His vengeance against Castillejo was a great step for him. Then fights against Schenk, Velazko, Masoe, & Sendra were all great wins & good opposition. Those may not be names that you know...but, again, that doesn't make them or him S***.

Sturm's a good fighter...he's just has some ups & downs lately.

Those names I mention were the best on his resume...and Yes Wacko I do kow who the others are and have seen all of them fight Thanks for the boxing 101 but I don't need it from you contrary to YOUR belief

As far as Castillejo...I don't care what you think was great step in vengence for him....Fact Of the Matter is he was TKO'd By Castillejo when Castillejo hadn't had a decent win in over 4yrs.....He won a decision in the rematch...So What is that supposed to be some pound for pound accomplishment?...Javier was what 39yrs old with more miles on him then a 57 Chevy....Sturm is what 27 or 28 in his prime?......So Yeah WACK HE SHOULD HAVE WON!!!.....AND I will label those his two biggest wins....

Do we want to discuss the resume of Schenk? His last 7 opponents before Sturm had a combined record of 98-86 one with a 7-14 one with a 9-14-2 another with a 0-7...shall I keep going about the quality of Berts comp?


out of Velazco's last 5 before Sturm one had a 7-1-2 record another 37-44-8 and another 36-31-6,, Maso had his best opp in Ashira before Sturm, the 4 before him were 0-3, 6-3, 0-3, 5-2-4

Lets see Sendra had a guy 30-20, 11-13 and I don't think we need to look at their opp even for the best opponents of the 4 you mentioned for Sturms best wins....

Keep trying to pass them off as good opponents Wacko....Good Wins save your preaching for someone who doesn't know better







lol Daxx having another one of his turns again. You're up and down more than JT Rock now.

Do Asian men get periods or something?

Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I think nothing of him...He is a protected fighter that will stay clear of any dangerous opp if at all possible...

His biggest wins are over Hacine Cherif and Robert Frazier
Those aren't his biggest wins...their just the names that you recognize & to say that he is S***...well that just proves that you haven't seen enough of him.

Sure you can have that opinion...but don't lable those two as his biggest wins.

His vengeance against Castillejo was a great step for him. Then fights against Schenk, Velazko, Masoe, & Sendra were all great wins & good opposition. Those may not be names that you know...but, again, that doesn't make them or him S***.

Sturm's a good fighter...he's just has some ups & downs lately.

Those names I mention were the best on his resume...and Yes Wacko I do kow who the others are and have seen all of them fight Thanks for the boxing 101 but I don't need it from you contrary to YOUR belief

As far as Castillejo...I don't care what you think was great step in vengence for him....Fact Of the Matter is he was TKO'd By Castillejo when Castillejo hadn't had a decent win in over 4yrs.....He won a decision in the rematch...So What is that supposed to be some pound for pound accomplishment?...Javier was what 39yrs old with more miles on him then a 57 Chevy....Sturm is what 27 or 28 in his prime?......So Yeah WACK HE SHOULD HAVE WON!!!.....AND I will label those his two biggest wins....

Do we want to discuss the resume of Schenk? His last 7 opponents before Sturm had a combined record of 98-86 one with a 7-14 one with a 9-14-2 another with a 0-7...shall I keep going about the quality of Berts comp?


out of Velazco's last 5 before Sturm one had a 7-1-2 record another 37-44-8 and another 36-31-6,, Maso had his best opp in Ashira before Sturm, the 4 before him were 0-3, 6-3, 0-3, 5-2-4

Lets see Sendra had a guy 30-20, 11-13 and I don't think we need to look at their opp even for the best opponents of the 4 you mentioned for Sturms best wins....

Keep trying to pass them off as good opponents Wacko....Good Wins save your preaching for someone who doesn't know better







lol Daxx having another one of his turns again. You're up and down more than JT Rock now.

Do Asian men get periods or something?


Has nothing to do with it Bilbo...Wacko is sitting there telling me I haven't seen so and so fight and I shopuld not label Cherif and Frazier his best wins....And he is going to name guys that have fought some of the owrst opp in the sport...then tell me I don't know what I am talking about and I haven't seen enough of Sturm to make a judgement....

I have seen plenty of Sturm and have seen all the guys he mentioned fight....even if I had not just the opp on paper alone shows they have not faced top caliber comp....How are you going to blast me then defend your arguement with those opponents? What because those are fights he looked best in?

Tel;l me I can have my opinion but don't label...I don't have to label facts

Lets see BHB called him S***, with no reason but just that he is S***, VD called him heartless and disappointing, Bom Boom called him a MW Guinn....and he is going to call me out because I said I thought nothing of him...I did not call Sturm S*** Wacko put those words in..look at my first post on the subject...All I said was I felt he was protected....Everyone else outright called him garbage......

And Wacko is going to call my post out...What because he is Wacko I am supposed to bow my head and appreciate what he tells me....And if your going to dis agree with my post fine you don't have to agree thats the whole point of debating...but don't start throwing in stuff I did not say