Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Secularism doesn't lead to violence. Leaders arrogating religion for their own personal ends however does.
....not specifically but not having religion at all doesn't mean the end of all violence and you had better understand that.

Wars have been fought long before religion as we know it was around and wars will be fought if religion is not around.


More wars are fought over money and national pride than religion....hate to disagree with you once again but I figure you're about used to it by now
I'm not saying that wars are fought over religion, I'm saying there are leaders who use religion to create popular support for war and violence in general.