Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
I don't know if Pavlik's taken a lot of punishment yet. He was brought along pretty slow, a lot of his fights were just total dominations. He's taken some punches versus McKart, forgot his name for the moment but the Mexican dude he fought before Miranda on HBO, Miranda, and Taylor but its not like he's taken an obscene amount of punishment.

And he's not quick but he's not the slowest guy I've ever seen and he's got a nice jab and seems to have good timing.

One thing I wonder about Pavlik is could he fight going backwards. But somebody would have to make him go backwards and they'd take some heavy shots on the way in.
Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
I don't know if Pavlik's taken a lot of punishment yet. He was brought along pretty slow, a lot of his fights were just total dominations. He's taken some punches versus McKart, forgot his name for the moment but the Mexican dude he fought before Miranda on HBO, Miranda, and Taylor but its not like he's taken an obscene amount of punishment.
Kelly Pavlik took plenty of flush punches from good punchers like Jose Luis Zertuche, Edison Miranda Fulgencio Zuniga. And why does Pavlik have to take a obscene amount of punishment ?? Pavlik has already proved he can take big shots and come back he has been hit with flush punches against big punchers, he has been knocked down, he has been in toe to toe wars. And he has shown he can take whatever his opponent's got and comeback in a big way. Pavlik reminds me of Miguel Cotto in the chin department, both of there chins can be dented but not cracked.

As for this match up Pavlik would destroy Abraham in 7 rounds, Abraham was lucky to win against Miranda. Miranda just basically threw the fight away on points with foul play, although to Abraham's credit he did show his toughness in that fight because he did have a broken jaw, but i still can't see Abraham making it past the 7th round.

Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
One thing I wonder about Pavlik is could he fight going backwards. But somebody would have to make him go backwards and they'd take some heavy shots on the way in.
Well you will be waiting along time for that to happen, because there is not one single boxer at Middleweight that can force Pavlik on the back foot, in fact even going back in history i find it hard for any of the past Middleweight greats to force Pavlik on the back foot.