Quote Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto
If Pavlik feels comfortable at 168? Will he or should he stay at 168?

Which brings me to the following:

Watching Miranda knock out Banks last Friday, one has to wonder, if.... Miranda would ever like to try and redeem himself in a rematch against Pavlik. Miranda looked big against Banks and this just shows us how big both Miranda and Kelly are.

All speculations here because we have not seen what Pavlik or Jermain can do at this weight class. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself but I have to wonder because a rematch (Pavlik/Miranda) of this magnitude, is mouth watering to say the least.

This whole thing has to dove tail on what Wacko was saying about how great this 168 weight class is going to be this year. He might be onto something for shizz.
Yes i think he should there isn't much for him at Middleweight, Sturm won't fight in the USA and neither will Abraham, Duddy isn't really a good match up, and Andy Lee is far too inexperienced. So moving to Super Middleweight would be a great choice, there is so many names for him there and can you imagine how good of a fight Kessler vs Pavlik would be ?? wow is all i can say.

Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Pavlik, like all fighters, is going to go where the money is. If 168 presents more chances for big fights than 160, then we could see him at 168 sooner rather than later.

That being said, I don't really care that much about a Pavlik-Miranda rematch. Pavlik kicked his a** the first time, and would do so again in a rematch. Miranda is a big puncher who can't do much else.

A fighter like Kessler would smoke Miranda. If Pavlik moves to 168, I want to see him fighting guys like Kessler instead of Miranda.
I agree about Miranda vs Pavlik 2 that is a bit of a waste of time at the moment, Miranda was very ineffective on the back foot and it would be a repeat of the 1st fight. Maybe if Miranda can beat a few of the top Super Middleweights then i wouldn't mind seeing it but at the moment im not interested in a rematch at all.

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Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Pavlik, like all fighters, is going to go where the money is. If 168 presents more chances for big fights than 160, then we could see him at 168 sooner rather than later.

That being said, I don't really care that much about a Pavlik-Miranda rematch. Pavlik kicked his a** the first time, and would do so again in a rematch. Miranda is a big puncher who can't do much else.

A fighter like Kessler would smoke Miranda. If Pavlik moves to 168, I want to see him fighting guys like Kessler instead of Miranda.
I mostly agree, but will also say I will not write off Miranda against any fighter because he is tough as nails and he will land the right hand on them. On paper Kessler mops the floor with him, in reality though, it could go much differently.

Miranda is a wild card kinda fighter who could upset anyone on a given night. Expect to see many fighters out there avoid him just because.

It also would not surprise me to hear Pascal got "injured" in training for their fight.

I don't think it would Kessler has a great jab and good technical skills, Miranda can punch but he isn't a good boxer and he loops his punches plus he has a terrible defense. I could actually see it going similar to Andrade vs Kessler.