When did I mention Valuev as one of the good fighters today? Also Foreman threw wide punches and had no defense, same with Marciano, Shavers, early Frazier, Joe Louis sure got hit a whole lot. PEter's doesn't have the worst defense in the world, he is immensely strong, he has a good beard, and he would have given many of the old school heavyweights a tough fight if he didn't come in weighing 250 pounds. Also he schooled TOney in the second fight, and once against Toney is a tough mother fucker who any mauler would have had trouble with.
Taeth Sam Peter would have been easy prey for Liston, Frazier, Shavers and perhaps even Marciano
And Toney hasn't gotten too slow to ever be ranked as even a good heavyweight.