Quote Originally Posted by Hairdoo
Quote Originally Posted by clean
Quote Originally Posted by Hairdoo
Why so many people are sold on Floyd Mayweather's greatness right now is beyond me
What level of competition has Floyd fought above 135lb?
Mitchell 140 :P
Judah 147 :P

now who has Oscar fought above 135lb?

Chavez 140
Gonzalez 140
Whitiker 147
Comacho 147
Quartley 147
Trinidad 147
Mosely 147 154
Vargas 154
Sturm 160
Hopkins 160

you lot honestly think lil'Floyd and his soft hands would do better in those fights than Oscar? 140 is where PBF belongs and I think we will all find that out before the end of the year.

The fact is Floyd can have all the speed and defense in the world but Snr will be in Oscars corner.
Managers are like NBA coaches, they're unbelievably overrated. Yes, a good one makes a big difference from a bad one, but ultimately when you have two world class athletes in a ring, they will have only themselves to rely on. You say who has Floyd beaten that is worthwhile above 135? I agree. No one worth mentioning along the likes of Leonard or Hagler's resume. Now I'll ask you this. Exactly who has Oscar beaten above welterweight? Vargas? Mayorga? Not that much more impressive than Judah or Mitchell.
When two of the sports elite boxers face off it generally turns into a chess match and your telling me having the other guys father as your TRAINER (very different to manager) will have no consiquence? Floyd's style is typical of his Father, I see that as a huge advantage for Oscar.

Who has Oscar beaten above Welter you ask... well I give you the 2nd Mosely fight at 154 also the Vargas that Oscar beat would have destroyed the Judah and Mitchell that Floyd beat and Mayorga would as well for that matter.. could you see Judah or Mitchell standing and trading with Mayorga? no.. anyways I didn't say above 147 I said above 135. In my eyes he is still riding the wave he created back at Super Featherweight, above 130 the only name I see is Castillo. I'm simply just questioning Floyds strength above 140lb.

I'll jump back on the PBF bandwagon after he beats Hatton and the Welterweight mess is sorted out.

oh and as far as Leonard/Hagler goes, well throw in Hearns and Duran at Middleweight and their resume is definately worth mentioning "Fabulous Four" its worth tracking down.
Which Mosley are you talking about? You mean the one who entered that fight without having won his previous 3 bouts? Not exactly the momentum machine Oscar faced at 147 was it. And yes, the Vargas Oscar faced would have beaten Judah and Mitchell, HE WAS ON STEROIDS! The four biggest wins of Oscar's career (Quartey, Whitaker, Vargas, and Mayorga) are all either controversal and close decisions or Trinidad leftovers. I'm not dissing Oscar, because he's just as skilled as Mayweather, but let's stop acting as if his victories are more meaningful than Floyd's.