In his day yes!! Calling him the best P4P in MMA ever is sereously overrating the bloke!! I dont even think he was the best in his family,his brother Rickson would have taken him 2 school and I think Renzo was better overall. He was good in the early days of UFC submitting blokes who had no ground game whatsoever,but the Sport has developed so much sinse then that well.....watch Matt Hughes Vs Royce Graice from a few years back.