Totally agree with Jack...maybe not totally...but I agree basically.

Being a fan of both...I can honestly say that Joe needs to put up & shut up.

If Pavlik's such a walk in the park...put on your hip boots & get deep in the muck because honestly...it aint gonna be that easy.

In the end...I believe in Joe & feel that he would win...but Kelly's got rocks in his gloves & Joe tasted canvas against my FOAT when the Nard dropped him & that aint a great sign.