so you're saying a fast punch is more reliant on how fast it is pulled back to a guard rather than punched out Interesting, I can see how that would work when throwing a flurry as the faster a punch comes back, the faster another can be thrown.

But what about beating the opponent to the jab, surely it's a matter of how fast the jab is sent out?

Does that mean we should just train both

thanks Scrap! and others!