But then when is the right time to retire for Joe, as there will always be a Pavlic, Lacy or whoever coming up ... it's tricky but I feel Joe has earned the right to retire when he feels the time is right .. and I for one would find it nothing short of shocking if he was then accused of ducking or avoiding anyone ... he never has and wouldn't be starting now by retiring.
(Not accusing anyone of calling Joe a ducker by the way...well not yet at least lol)