Well RJJ you and ICE and few others i dont mind much because most of what you say is not so dream like. See some many RJJ fans go overboard with him i mean just crazy. I mean people want to put the man as the next Ray Robinson and say he was the best fighter from 160-230. But to me that is just crazy maybe not hate but i can not think of word for what i fell for that. You can go on his talent all you want but his record does not come close to alot of guys in the top of the list to me. His lack of oppostion i think puts him in i would say like top 25 some were between that and the top15 so i say he is between 15-25 but no higher then that. He was best people say at SMW but did not stay there that long and SMW was never top weight division if you look over all the years of boxing for the past 100 years of it atleast might change later on. Then he goes at LHW but his record and talent faced there was not as great as other LHW but that is close one for him. Then he goes to heavyweight and fights the weakest champion i did not think it was that big a deal because after he won it he went back down and got knocked out. He never challanged the real champ for the belt so i never saw the point of him moving up in weight. Well thats all i got to say about RJJ i mean love the guy all you want i just dont see what you see i guess.