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Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.
First of all, Dawson needs to get past Tarver, which he might not. Second of all, Dawson isn't exactly known for his punching power. Third, Dawson is has chin questions of his own, and he is very hittable. Fourth, Dawson isn't a very big LWH. Two years ago he was fighting at 168 and he could probably still make that weight.

So no, you are wrong, Pavlik would stand a pretty good chance. He might not be the favorite, but you can't count him out.
You're wrong. Dawson isn't that hittable, watch him in any other fight besides against Glen Johnson who has quick sharp punches.

Dawson isn't a big lhw? He is 6'3, he has a 76 1/2 inch reach, he is a big guy. He weighed 168 when he was younger, so what, Roy Jones Jr made 154 for 20 fights, and he was a big 168 pounder. Oscar De La HOya was a big welterweight, he started his career at 135, and even fought at 130.

Also he does have chin problems, but against much bigger punchers then Pavlik. Because his is the larger, much faster man out of the two, he is going to land first and more often.

Also I think Tarver does have a chance against Dawson, and if he does win then He would konck Pavlik the fuck out. Pavlik is so overrated on here its not even funny.

People are jumping on my back because I say guys like Berto are going to be very good fighters down the road, but guys like Pavlik who have way less potential are considered gods on this site. STOP HUMPING HIS BLUE COLLAR'ed ass.
First of all, numbskull, I wasn't humping his ass. I wasn't even saying that he would win. I was saying he has a chance. Sorry, I forgot, if I fighter isn't slick or fast they are overrated and suck. You are attracted to handspeed like a junkie is to dope. You salivate over the Mayweathers, Jones, Bertos, and Dawsons of the world because that's the your favorite style and to you that's what boxing it all about. Fair enough.

Some people overrate Pavlik here, but don't lump me in with them. FYI, I've watched plenty of Dawson fights. The only time he's not hittable is if he's in with a bum. Adamek, Johnson, and Harding all hit him that's the total roster of decent opposition he has faced. Dawson is only chinny against bigger punchers than Pavlik? You mean to tell me that Eric Harding hits harder than Pavlik? With his 7 KO's out of 23 wins? You are kidding yourself if you don't think Pavlik has the power to stop Dawson.

No, I think you are underrating Pavlik because he doesn't possess the qualities in a fighter which you most appreciate.