Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
He is not one of the top 10 fighters ever, don't get carried away. He is a fucking great fighter, but he wasn't better then Mayweather or Roy Jones Jr. once again going by p4p criteria they would have both beaten him. Mayweather has a similar skill set to Hopkins but is way faster. Roy Jones Jr in modern boxing was in a class of his own even though his competition wasn't the best ever, James Toney was way better then Pavlik and Roy did the same thing to him. Hell Roy even beat Bernard with a broken hand. Not that Bernard isn't close to them, but he isn't at their level let alone the Ray Robinson's of the world.
Boxing ratings doesn't work like a computer game, you don't make up points for speed, power, balance, footwork and then add it all up to see who the winner is. Greats are determined by doing great things in the ring against all comers, a pre-prime Hopkins was all Roy could handle , and Jones has spent the last 7 years since the Tito fight avoiding the rematch. Sure Floyd is a brilliant boxer, and may well have an almost perfect style, but he isn't a face anyone anytime fighter like Hop. Rather than leaving hypothetical questions like 'what would have Hopkins have done against Pavlik?' in the mouths of the fans and so-called experts, he fucking answers them.

Just cos a lot of fans 'think' that Floyd can school Margarito, 90% of the same people reckoned that Pavlik could defeat Hopkins. If we rated people entirely on what the majority think would happen, then Pavlik would have wrongly been held up higher in the p4p rankings than Hopkins.