Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
Trainer Monkey - lots of guys hold belts who aren't top level fighters.

Holmes and Joppy were never elite middleweights, they were solid at best.

Joppy was lucky to scrape past Howard Eastman before Hopkins beat him.
Speaking of people Bernard beat,Eastmen lost too
He wasnt supposed to beat Trinidad,he wasnt supposed to beat Wright,he wasnt supposed to beat Tarver,and he wasnt supposed to beat Pavlik
Give it up,he unified the title at middleweight,he moved up,he's done everything thats left to be done. Even his losses are heavily arguable. Hell even when he was fresh out of Fraziers,he beat Mercado having to travel from Philly to Rochester only finding out he was fighting that day. He took a round and a half from Echols one handed because he had a seperated shoulder,when he could have retired and still won because he was well ahead on the cards.