People Are Idiots

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I'll admit,my kid is kind of sheltered,we dont even let him watch Ed,Ed,and Eddie or Chowder because we find it objectionable, but I just cant see him going and grabbing a gun in a pre-meditated murder,and understanding the ramifications of what he was about.
I could see the kid,wanting to hurt his father,but I dont think the kid got that when you do that,they stay gone. Or even what death really means.

Well, you would know best about your own kid, Im not saying that all 8 year olds understand the concept of death, or even that they should understand those concepts. What I am saying is that it is entirely possible for an 8 year old to nderstand those concepts, it is not beyond their capabilities. It would depend on what they are taught, or on what they have been exposed to.

I can't say it any better than that, perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.

But even then,we get in to an area of parental responsibility. like or not, your child is your responsibility.
If you handed me a newborn,I could turn it in to Hitler probably,am I any less culpable for the childs actions.
I know if my kid burns down the neighbors house on purpose, I know whose pocketbook their coming for,and it isnt the kids

OK, if we are talking about whether or not the kid is fully responsible, that's a little different. I would tend to agree with you about responsibility of parents, though it might not be criminal responsibility.

Like you, I would probably be opposed to trying the kid as an adult. But at the very least, some sort of custodial arrangement, or extremely strict supervision, is required in this situation.