[quote=the_pRoDiGy;651449]I still can't believe how Pac dismantled Oscar and I got into this mood watching his exciting fights so I watched his last fight with Marquez again and IMO it seems like Pac really won. It was close when you look at the compubox numbers or Marquez should have even won if we looked at it punch for punch coz everytime Marquez landed his shots it was consecutive punches and was pretty and well timed plus Pac is out of balanced whenever he got hit.BUT.When I scored it round by round to me Pac clearly won.

rd 1. 10-9 Marquez
it was very close but got to give it to him for the tempo

rd 2. 10-9 Marquez
hit Pac with a great combo and a vicious left hook to end it

rd 3. 10-8 Pacquiao
scored a KD from a big left cross

rd 4. 10-9 Pacquiao
fed off the momentum of the KD

rd 5. 10-9 Marquez
recovered well and begins to connect with the right at will

rd 6. 10-9 Marquez
slow paced round and he landed the most telling shot

rd 7. 10-9 Pacquiao
accidental headbutt.a very close round but the tempo and the exchanges were in favor of him

rd 8. 10-9 Marquez
dominant round for him.connected big right hands that opened a cut on Pac's right eye.Pac was clearly bothered

rd 9. 10-9 Pacquiao
came back with his own connections of left hand that busted Marquez's right eye

rd 10. 10-9 Pacquiao
almost scored a KD and threw a barrage of flurries on a wobbled Marquez

rd 11. 10-9 Pacquiao
he seems to have figured out how to stay away from Marquez's right and sustained attacks continously

rd 12 10-10
Even.I can't say enough about this round. Marquez seems desperate and is throwing it all out but Pac is blocking almost all of it while still connecting even with less power. I initially gave it to Marquez but when I watched it again,like Manny Steward stated I too was impressed by how Pac defended the onslaught so I gave it to him. I can see why Lederman gave it to Pac. But most people say Marquez threw enough to get the round.Won't matter though IMO.

115-113 Pacquiao

IMO even if Marquez won the 12th he would have still lost because of the KD.

There were 3 very close rounds.(1, 7, 12) I scored the 1st for Marquez (HBO for Pac) the 7th in favor of Pac (everyone seems to agree) and the controversial 12th even.

But I if we give it all to Marquez he would win 7 rounds and may have salvaged a 114-113 win. If I give Pac those 3 close rounds he would win with comfortable 116-111 decision.

I think Marquez won in the CompuBox stats. and by how lopsided it looked during the rounds he won. Plus I think most people are assuming that because the fight went the distance it should have been Marquez's fight. Yes it was indeed a great gameplan by Marquez and he definitely made Pac looked most awkward and uncomfortable whenever they fight.But boxing is scored round by round so I don't think people should questioned Pac's victory saying Marquez got robbed. Let's give the man the credit he deserves and let's look at him as a fighter continually improving and entertaining us like he always does. (end)



I have the same scorecard, except giving rounds 11 and 12, a tossup or a flip flop; it was too close to call.

In the eight, I really thought it was Marquez' round to end Pacquiao. For whatever reason, he eased up on the pedal and let Pacquiao get back in the last four rounds. It was silly backtracking on Marquez', when the need clearly was to step-up, for the PacMan was seriously injured and fighting and defending inadequately.

I think in this fight, the Pac camp was out prepared. When JMM went back to his old ways*, after being aggressive his last few fights, it threw of their preparation. It was up to Pac to fight an intelligent fight, and bring it home for the team.

This Pacquiao, who fought JMM twice, is not even close to the Pacquiao (ala Duran/Pac version) whom DeLahoya, Diaz, Velasquez, and Barera I, all saw. So it is remarkable, and or lucky for Pacquiao to make a fight plan on the fly good enough to win, even by the narrowest of margins.

* I guess JMM was just stirring the hornet's nest, and once got a Pacquiao date, after 4 long years …went back to a strategy that they know will win, which is counter and combination. Avoiding an all out slugfest ala PacMan vs. EM II and III at all cost. Way of the wise, self-preservation in mind.