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Marquez and Golden Boy offered Pacquiao 6 million for a 3rd fight. What did Pac do? He said no. He took less money to move up and fight one of the weakest title holders in recent history David Diaz. But if you talk to a Pac groupie than you'll think David Diaz was Roberto Duran.

I wasn't aware that knock downs are what win fights. I always thought it was rounds won. All those knock downs did for Pac was win him 2 rounds. That's it.

He didn't say no. He said not now. He moved up and fought Diaz which lined up his fight with ODH.

Either way, rounds or knockdowns. According to the records Pac won both. It's some people's opinions that JMM won more rounds, but not according to the judges.

I'm not a Pac groupie, I like both fighters. I find it real hard to give a decision to someone who's been kd in the fight. It's not like every other round was one sided for JMM and he got a flash kd. Both fights were very hard fought and most rounds close. JMM won some rounds decidedly, but never enough to put Pac down. Also he hurt Pac a couple of times, but still never enough to put him down.

We both know the flip side of that. Pac hurt him enough to drop him. That's what wins you close fights, cause he won more than just the 2 rounds he kd'd JMM.

First fight was a draw actually, but imo Marquez won both...

I was saying ROUNDS and knockdowns. Not both fights. But that's fine. Fights were close enough to go either way. Personally, I don't feel you won a fight if you get kd'd 4 times and not once the other guy. Just doesn't work for me when the other rounds were close. JMM certainly gave the best and closest fights with Pac, and if you subtract the kd's, he won. BUT, he did get put on his ass 4 times. So Pac got the win. That's the breaks.....