The Thrilla in Manilla Documentary

[Majesty]

From the documentaries around the first fight him and Frazier were both going at it verbally. Ali was much more hardcore in what he was saying but didn't Frazier refer to Ali as "Cassius" during the first fight hype as well?

The main fact is, Ali then and Ali now and Frazier then and Frazier now. Ali moved on and made strides to be a better person after his boxing career which is why he is "the greatest"

Joe still holds onto 30 years ago and only reconciles with Ali if there is money involved and then reniggs it.

Nothing those two have done should be excused by anyone.

The difference is Ali has nothing to be excused for now, he's tried, and done all he can to make things right. Frazier is intent on still having some, and thats his fault.

watching the documentary would make you think the third fight crowd was pro Frazier all night

But when I watch the fight on ESPN Classic they booed at the start and Ali started making faces and pretending to cry and they began cheering. And they cheered even more when Ali and Frazier were talking trash in the ring introductions and I think Ali was saying "I'm gonna kick your ass" And Frazier was saying something back.

But it wasn't a pro Frazier only crowd as the documentary would let you think, they cheered at all the high spots, not just when Frazier did something.