Quote Originally Posted by Sheps
How can anyone be patriotic if we cant have a flag that boasts about us murdering and straight up kicking the a*** of another nation?

Thats what makes the super powers such as England and America so great, our flags represent the slaughter of another country, Its basically just saying " Remeber that one time when we like destroyed your civilation? yeah we whooped your a*** "

You have to be racist to be patriotic. You cant just say your great and no have the muscle to back it up!
You obvioulsy have no pride in our nation's history or you have over looked anything good... to me the flag represents social, econmic, scientific and industrial pioneering, standing up to the third reich when every other nation was either scared or defeated and the fact that our tiny little Island has achieved so much on a world wide scale. Is any of that racist? it has nothing to do with the colour of our people's skin our their ethnicity and everything to do with the intergrity of our societ and the minds we have aloud to grow and acheive.

maybe closer to the crusades that was what the flag represented but its 2006 Sheps... hine the flag and try and prevent patriotism but what happened 100s of years ago stays that way and if people would stop being so petty it wouldn't matter today, why should it? society has changed and we are different people.

Missy, people don't wave this nations flag any more... they wave the football teams flag... so what if they get an image of david beckham covered in hair gel when they wave it and can't tell the difference between Gazza and winston churchill... :P