and, no, hulk shouldnt really call you a moron. thats not acceptable. i think hulk runs on emotion a little and thought you were trying to take credit away from b hops victory....

your argument is acceptable. i dont think tarver is on hopkins skill level. but there were other factors at play that did make this victory very, very significant....
[/quote]Hulk's like 18 and fueled by testosterone.....He has a very short fuse....by the way I picked ODLH, B-HOP and Cotto.... got a pretty good streak going now.... Come on Winky!!!!