The Riddick Bowe that Beat Holyfield Vs The Buster Douglas that beat Tyson

[Jody Lane]

think the count was abt 14 seconds? wasnt jack dempsey carpenter alot longer?

You mean Gene Tunney vs Jack Dempsey 2, and yes that was indeed longer. But only because Jack Dempsey didn't go to the neutral corner. And that was because the rules had not long been changed, and Jack Dempsey was used to standing over opponents, hence why he didn't go to the neutral corner against Gene Tunney.

I stand corrected yeah it was tunney, buster wasnt out of it when he got put down tho he was always in control he would easy of made 10 seconds anyway

I agree Buster took advantage of the count, but could of gotten up if the count went as quickly as it should have. Well left me correct myself. Buster didn't take advantage of the count, he was in no position to know how slowly it was going and got up at 9. Still I think the Douglas of that night would have beaten Bowe at any time of Bowe's career. I never saw Bowe as all that good. I just rank him around the same level of Greg Page, another unmotivated pretender. Sorry for those who disagree with me. I value your opinions too. Just never saw the spark of greatness many others seem to see. Just my opinion and I have been wrong before.