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I would never slag him off if he fought the to Welters, he fought some great guys south of 140 and I have nothing but respect for that. He just ain't fought prime hungry guys for a long time. I want him to get beat for one reason........that's all he goes on about "I'm undefeated, he has losses why should I fight him blah blah" I just want to see what he would replace the "undefeated" thing with.
Hold on, correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be) but you're a Joe Calzaghe fan right?

That tool STILL goes on about how he is undefeated on Strictly Come F'in Dancin and he fought NOBODY (Kessler is the exception - Hopkins beat him)

If there is anybody who cares about their undefeated streak and won't stop going on about it, it's JC. Yet, Mayweather suddenly becomes public enemy number 1 for being undefeated.

Also, I don't remember him ever saying "he has losses, why should I fight him" because he probably would have had a couple fights his whole career if that was the case.

He usually just says "there is no blueprint to beat me because I ain't been beaten"

In answer to the topic question - I highly doubt anybody would allow Mayweather to retire the greatest. People look back too fondly on the old guys like they were on a different planet to Floyd..

Shame really because I think he's just as good as SRL, Hearns, Duran in his own way. SRL was known for his slick combination, Hearns for his flicker jab and those ball n chain fists. Duran for his sheer animal instincts. Floyd should be known as a defensive master.

Styles make fights - I think he's pretty evenly matched against the ATG's
In terms of skillset he has his own thing going on that defines him as a great in his era, but based on resume it's nothing compared to Leonard, Hearns, Duran.

Hell let's just take Leonard's resume and matched him with Floyd since he was considered the best p4p of his era and Floyd is considered to be the best p4p of his era. Leonard beat guys like Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler in their absolute prime or close to it. Now name me a fighter on Floyd's resume that has the credentials of Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Hagler that was at their absolute prime or close to it that Floyd beat? There isn't any fighter on Floyd's resume that comes close to those 4 I mentioned that Leonard beat. Some of Floyd's fans may say De La Hoya, but Oscar was 34 and would be a shot fighter a year later.

And get this, Leonard had only 1 fight in 5 years, came back and jumped up 2 weight classes and went the distance with Hagler (whether he beat Hagler or not is another debate). Floyd comes back after almost 2 years and makes the LW champ jumps two weight classes and beats him.

In terms of skill set Floyd may even beat a guy like Leonard in some sort of fantasy matchup, but in terms of resume he doesn't even come close to matching Leonard's or Duran or Hearns. To be the greatest of all time, you better have an outstanding resume. That's the number 1 criteria.
That, we can both agree on.

I'm just talking talent for talent. Regardless of resume etc