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I thought this film was more homoerotic than Brokeback Mountain. Plus it's historical accuracy was hideous. The Spartans were one of the most disgusting societies in history.

Although I guess 300 paedophiles standing up to the progressive empire built upon foundations of truth & justice wouldn't have made the best film adaptation
Actually, Athenians sexuality toward kids was much worst than in Sparta where virility was to be reckon; The spartans were in fact a bit monstrous with their kids but not that much sexually but for things like the "cripsy rite" (not sure how to write it in english) where children were more or less left alone having to steal to survive and being hardly punished if they were caught doing so. Also, in te movie they don't put out the fact that Sparta didn't had one but 2 kings as one was to go to war and the other one to stay in case the other king might die at war.
The only good thing actually about the historic facts is that effectively, spartans loved and spent their life for fighting for the glory of the city and were quite emotionless as if they would perish or not (dying for the glory of the city was one of the best thing that could potentially happen to a spartan citizen) so I enjoyed despite the mediocre historic approach how they depicted their state of mind through battle and its approach but that is all.
I found it all ridiculous. Oh & they did practice paedophilia quite widely, it was in fact part of the 'training' you see a bit of in the film. A young boy would have a 'mentor' who would teach him to fight & also some things that might have made Gary Glitter a fan of Sparta. Sick place.
Theorically, not really, such practices were not seen as well (or accepted) as in the Athenian society, in the movie Leonidas even throw a dart to the athenians making some remarks about how they were queery or something. Sure, it must have happened at some point like in any other society but historical facts are a bit far off away from the image we have of it today, especially as we have more the athenian society image society in mind. On the other side, they were beating their kids like bad to teach them how to fight, which isn't a lot better; Sure, they produced perhaps collectively the best warriors earth ever saw but this was a very very sick and violent
society nowaday.
If you want to read what is perhaps the best book ever written on Sparta, look for a guy called Jean Levy and his book "Spartes", it is a real classics historically talking.