Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
West have benefited by oil, selling more weapons and building the infrastructure back up of Iraq.
OK #1 oil prices have gone up since the war started #2 Selling weapons has hurt us in the past #3 We benefitted by building THEIR infrastructure Maybe some contracted firms have done well in that regard but not our government. #4 Iraq is now closer to Iran politically than it used to be so that in the end is a bad thing IMO they will soon turn into another Syria.

The war in Afghanistan was 100% legal and 100% deserved, Iraq was a rush to judgment but hell me trying to explain that to you guys is just going to get all of us irritated. The battle plans we had never took nation building into account and that was Rumsfeld's fault, every general that suggested that we needed more troops until Rummy resigned got fired.

miles were those million people killed by the US/UK or the enemy? Were they civilians? Were they combatants? What makes it a war crime? Define what is a war crime and I'll tell you of numerous other people that deserve the title far more than Bush or Blair.
1) a)oil price skyrocket because the idiots neo-cons thought and planned that after 3 weeks/one month the war would be over and that the IRaquis would welcome you open arms for giving them "democracy". Now they face the harsh reality of Iraq with its 2 ethnical groups not exactly at peace with each others.
b) They don't give a wuut if we pay our oil more expensive, their friends made billions in contracts sucking off oil, supplying the troops etc. That the common citizen pays more is the least of their concern.

2)Selling weapons profit greatly to the US, one of the biggest weapon seller in the world, do you know how many billions and billions has been given to Northop Grunmann, Carlyle Group, Boeing and such? If you want, I can even make you a list of the peoples having share into these companies (*hint* Dick Cheeney's wife is on Boeing chairboard, Douglas Feith, Papa Bush and Wolfowitz have huge shares in Carlyle and N.Grunmann* among other things)

3) well, companies making billions to rebuild, that's already a good start as they are mostly American.

4) Casualties include around 2 millions civilians plus 500 000 kids who died because their embargo ill designed didn't allow them to get drinkable water and other stuff they badly needed to survive, stuff they had access to, before the war.

Only for the children they should be life sentenced. And I am not even taking in account all the rest... just to be nice.