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Quote Originally Posted by tuckwopat
So basically, anyone who agrees with the outcome is blindly devoted?
Honestly...yes.

There are too many people out there that refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jermain is a bit of a honey pot to HBO. The network is often notorious for pulling some WACK a** decisions that we are all suseptible to agreeing with just because they are the big boys.

What's funny is that everyone get's in an uproar over things for example like Augustus losing & Oscar losing but when a fighter that clearly lost & fell apart twice...no one cries over it. Then no one can take a bit of criticism over the kid...they can't even acknowledge his flaws. That's being blindly devoted.

Said it once...say it 1000+ times...the kid has the goods...he just don't know how to use them...hence the fact that he is not worthy to have those titles if he can't fight for them effectively.

Quote Originally Posted by tuckwopat
And I don't see how marketing could sway anyones opinion since Winky has been on the good end of the marketing stick for a long time.
Winky is far from the good end of marketing...read up on Wright...listen to the fans & listen to the media & you will here it...

Winky needs to good fighter across from him to look good & draw a crowd & blah blah blah.

Marketing has a lot to do with it.

If a few judges can sway a crowd over a few million screens...yeah...media has a lot to do with it.

Quote Originally Posted by tuckwopat
I think Hopkins won the first match, but since that fight Taylor can do nothing right in the public eye.
Yeah...I think that Hopkins won the first match...but Taylor has done a lot in his fan's eyes.

The entire crowd was behind him against Wright till they saw him start to fall apart again in the late rounds.

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Winky isn't doing himself any good by crying foul to the media, there are actual organizations that he can cry to where it might make a difference.
Again...until you fight your best & get robbed...it's easy to say something like that.

Quote Originally Posted by tuckwopat
blaming HBO who he's happy to accept his paycheck from. I'll a $20 bet that says his next fight will also be on HBO. If he thinks he done such a good job, then why not take the rematch to Florida?
Where else is Wright supposed to go? FNF's? Showtime?

I could be wrong...but I never heard Winky blame HBO. Again...I could be wrong...but one thing is for sure...Winky outlanded Taylor 103 of 335 jabs (31%) while Taylor landed 41 of 308 (13%). From a fighter that was to dominate with his jab...he didn't.

He didn't dominate period.

Throughout the entire fight Taylor landed 163 of 703 punches thrown (23%), & Wright landed 226 of 643 (35%).

I'm sorry...but throwing shots & being on the low end of the percentages thrown or punching a man's defense does not win a fight.

It's the same distinction that he was happy to accept from the first Hopkins fight.

You can call that a champion & a legit decision if you want to...but the judges were swayed & so were the fan's that refuse to accept the fact that Wright was the dominating force of the evening.

It's sad.

no disrespect to the great wacko but..............

it really depends on how you score a fight ie:
taylor was more active but hit a lot harder when his punches landed, and the ones that didnt land were smashing up his arms, remember pre-fight when his strategy was revealed saying he would hit him where ever arms, chest, shoulders, elbows, face, body.....just as long as he was getting hit.

am i the only one to notice winky dropping his arms a bit as the fight pressed on?? so jt's strategy was effective, which probably explains why winky ran the last round

on the other hand........some people will score based on accuracy and a higher percentage

compubox numbers mean absolutely JACK!!! unless it is horribly lopsided. if those numbers could determine the outcome of the fight then we wouldnt need judges at all, anybody could score a fight

also.........
jt did better with wright that hatton did in his last fight....but nobody says anything about that

if youre a winky fan be satisfied with a draw.....it was a very close fight and this was no robbery