End of Day 2 of Mediation - No Agreement - They say fight is off

[Gandalf]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

No, no, no.

Pac's proposal to change the cut off date from 30 days to 24 days is a nothing proposal. It is far from the random testing which has been asked all along.

The arguments that you are offering in defence of Manny are ludicrous. The tests would have little impact on his training. There were a bunch of excuses for the Morales loss and bloodtesting was one of them. It couldn't be down to the fact that on the night Morales was simply better than him, could it now? I see there were no excuses after getting the nod over Marquez second time out. It's funny how there are no excuses when the cards go in your favour.

Manny, the supposed fans fighter, has gone and chickened out when it mattered the most. And you have to wonder, why? Were the questions being asked simply too much for him to handle? Or too close to the bone? Manny now has serious question marks next to his name and has made a lot of people very angry.

It's a disgrace. The responses from his team have been haphazard at best or else outright dishonest. We all knew Manny was tough to negotiate with, but this is absurd. The biggest fight of the decade off because of a refusal to submit to random testing.

i see where you're coming from. and i do agree about manny and the question marks next to his name because of certain allegations from a convicted drug dealer. but lets put ourselves in mannys shoes here for a moment. if you had a history of being outsmarted in a fight negotiation. for example, he was outhussled in the negotiations during the first morales fight by his own promoter. he was forced to use winning gloves instead of reyes, his blood was drawn two days before the fight and he believed that weakened him. the same pattern of negotiating floyd used. wanting to fight at 154, 10 oz gloves and random blood testing. well only the random blood testing worked against pacquiao.

There is no denying that Mayweather is a dick. He has always been a dick and that is why I don't like him, but it's a shame that Manny has turned out to be a bit of a dick too. Mayweather might be a ducker, but he's never going to have the stigma of drug abuse hanging over him.

At the end of the day Mayweathers demand is one that many professional athletes have to go through, so to turn down 40million big ones over a needle is just crazy. The fight was there to be made and the best Manny can do is to suggest a blood test 24 days before the fight. That is ridiculous, does he really need 3 weeks plus to get over a blood test and get himself in the zone? It's such a crock of shit and just makes him look like he is hiding something.