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It wasn't meant to be funny, Missy ..... I was playing devil's advocate bit ......... but my point that being a victim of a crime does not give you immunity for your own crimes was meant seriously.

The fact that we may not agree that those things should be classified as crimes is not relevant (there are many laws here that I dont think should be classified as a crime, but nevertheless they are.)

The fact that she was being served alcohol is also not relevant (it is an offence for muslims to drink alcohol, but not non-muslims ..... I would think it's a trifle naive to then drink so much that you are slumped semi conscious in a toliet - thats not the way to get much sympathy from an islamic judge) Incidentally, it is Whahhabi muslims who explicitly forbid alcohol, many other forms of Islam do not (you're right about Egypt, but there is also Indonesia and lots of other places - the Koran is a bit unclear on this, its a bit like trying to get definitive predictions from Nostrodamus.)

I'm not condoning or defending any rape that took place.

How dare a woman go out, she's clearly a whore, let's rape her.
Yes, exactly ....... I'm glad you've seen the righteousness of my view now.