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Believe it when I see it....Pavliks a coward and will find a way for this fight never to happen.

Job Biscuit (If this does happen Martinez will do a number on him)!!!


eh eh!!
I've got a sneaky feeling that Pavlik's hand is being forced on this one. Fight a top fighter or relinquish the belts, and to be honest, if he has to give up the belts, he has no shout for a title shot or anything for me. He now needs the belt more than ever as when its gone, i say he'll pale into the background as quick as he contracted his staph infection........
His hand isn't now being forced by the sanctioning bodies because he satisfied his mandatory by fighting his last fight. From what I gather, he didn't want to fight that fight because of the staph infection, but they would have stripped him of his belts if he didn't.

I bet two things happened. One, Pavlik himself wants big money fights after a dismal 2009 as does HBO who won't continue to give him big dates if he doesn't face top-level challenges. Martinez satisfies that. Two, Pavlik knows he will have to move up in weight soon and putting him against Martinez on a split feed with Bute sets up a big fight with Bute in the late summer.

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Believe it when I see it....Pavliks a coward and will find a way for this fight never to happen.

Job Biscuit (If this does happen Martinez will do a number on him)!!!


eh eh!!
That is a completely ridiculous statement. You must be referring to failure of Pavlik to fight Williams. Pavlik had a poor 2009. No doubt about it, but he is no coward. I don't need to point out that he fought Miranda immediately after Miranda had broken Abraham's jaw; he fought Taylor who had never been beat and was the middleweight champion of the world; and, he went up ten pounds to fight p4p Bernard Hopkins. After all that, how is it possible that he is a coward?

Exactley To call Kelly a coward is just stupid. One failed fight because of a fucked up hand does not make your a coward. I keep hearing nothing but praise about Martinez. He is a good fighter but slightly overrated in my mind still. He should have gotten a win against Cintron and looked decent doing it but Cintron has already been easily beaten twice by Margarito. He had all he could handle against Williams and LOST and now he is moving up into Pavlik's territory of middleweight. Martinez is a blown up welterweight as is. I think he will be slick at first but will easily tire just as he did in the Williams fight but this time get stopped. Pavlik by TKO in 10.