Fenster's right though, its the same guy that beat Cotto on my scorecard (well, the second time I watched it) and could have easily beaten him (there's the rub obviously, he always COULD do better). He's a tough out for most welters, but he'll never be elite. Still I guarantee he'll have people on here speculating on how good he'll be when he wakes up when he'll NEVER wake up. Fact. He is what he is to use a stupid phrase.