The logic of some posters kills me.....

[DaxxKahn]

Lennox Lewis- Had a glass Jaw because he was KO'd by Rahman and McCall (never mind the fact he stood up to Bruno, Tyson, Holyfield, Tua, Mercer, Botha, Briggs, Golota, Grant, Ruddock without going down )

Ricky Hatton- He always was over rated ( thoiugh no mention of the fact he lost only to the top 2 P4P fighters going today, held his own with 1 of them held titles in 2 weight classes and had only 1 loss at 140)

Joe Calzaghe- He avoided Jones until he knew Jones was shot by staying at home to fight (no mention of the fact Jones never went over there to fight, admitted he did not fight Clazaghe because at the time he had too much to lose, the fact Calzaghe came here to fight Jones and Jones called him out to fight during Joes fight against Hopkins Roy mentioned svereal times he wanted the winner)

No Lewis jaw wasn't glass. But you saying he stood up to the shots of Tyson, Golota (Ha!), Tua and Botha had me laughing. When exactly did he do that? You can't say you took somebodies punches if they never landed on you flush. I'm trying to remember if Golota even threw a punch. Much less connect with one

Hatton was always overrated. Name a good fighter Hatton beat that was in his prime.

Are you kidding me? Actual quote from Calzaghe back in 99

Joe Calzaghe - The Daily Mirror - June 1 - 1999 -
"I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money."

Pretty sure Lennox was caught flush quite a bit by Tua....But as we know you are always right....we will let the video decide....in the first 45 alone he caught shots that would have stopped most...then what about the Vitali fight? Lennox caught many flush shots that fight...The Mercer fight? Briggs fight?....

Leave me guess the video is doctored? No wait you had you Gang in the back dressing rooms for every fight making these guys practice making big shots LOOK like the landed but in truth they did not?

No no I got it you have actually sparred with all these guys while drinking a 40 and shagging your Ho!!! and none of the hit for shit!!!!

When your right your right Violent Demise...I swear you should be the boxing ringside expert for HBO and Sho

As for Golota you are right was not thinking nwhen I posted that name was just naming off past opp....Same for Grant don't think he even got one in

Oh and I see you bring what Calzaghe might have said in a paper but Ignore what Jones said about his refusing to go to the UK to defend during the Hopkins Calzaghe bout when he was commentating....Can't be just one sided...PLAYA!!!

Read the first line. Let me help you "No Lewis jaw wasn't glass." You know what that means? I can dumb it down further if you like. I'm actually agreeing with you that his jaw wasn't glass. To me it look like Tua was getting him with the end of his punches. Not flush. But I'll give to you any way. You acknowledge your foolishness in naming Golota. So I'll skip that. Grant landed one big shot on Lewis. That was it. Lewis took it well. He took Mercer shots pretty well overall. Briggs hurt him badly in the first. Vitali in the second. Not sure why you using those as good examples. Either way, I don't consider Lewis chin/jaw to be great. Far from it. But it's not glass either. It's just average

Still waiting on them Hatton names. I'm sure you just forgot to list them. I'll help you a bit. Carlos Maussa doesn't count.

Calzaghe knew if he wanted the big fights he had to come to the US. Everybody knew that. But Calzaghe never did. He was content facing WBO bums. Jones at the time was the p4p king. The number 1. A fighter wants to be number 1 he goes after the number 1. Not the other way around. Number 1 doesn't go after number 9. It don't work that way

HMMMM who has to dumb what down for who? Considering in my reply to you had nothing in it about youy saying Lewis had a glass chin it replied to you and the shots not landing flush...Reasons why I mentioned Mercer, Briggs etc...Just to add to fighters he was caught flush by not that he did not stand up to them...especially considering Lennox was down only twice in his career and he was out both times...The only 2 losses of his career....

I acknowledged the fact I made a mistake with adding Golota and Grant and stated I was naming the big punchers he faced before I thought about the actual fights....

Tua video that showed he many a flush shot what is your exact definition of
getting him on the end of his punches....The way you describe it he was barely landing and tall the punches were just scraping Lewis with his glove....

The other names were mentioned because Lewis took big punishment from them and stood tall...Hurt or not....

I did not get to hatton because we were on the topic of Lewis but OK...

Collazo, Urango, MaGee....HOF bound or P4P nop but all good fighters top 10 ranked when Hatton faced them...MaGee was a WBU defence nothing big here but I guess over seas is a bigger deal but MaGee is still a tough fighter at the time was no walk over for any 140lb fighter...

Tszyu was not a shot fighter when he faced Hatton...at his best no but he had kept a pretty slow schedule the years prior and had not taken too much abuse...so his inactivity hurt him leading up to the bout averaging 1 a year but shot no....

As for Calzaghe...Jones himself made the statement that he did not go fight him because it was too risky be it in the UK or states...he stated that on National TV while commentating on Calzaghe/Hopkins those words exactly get a copy of the fight and find out yourself....If Jones said it himself then any arguement you have is out the window because Jones stated nothing about why should I have...I was ranked #1 he was ranked # whatever he said...IT WAS TOO RISKY FOR ME AT THAT TIME ESPECIALLY IF I HAD TO GO TO THE UK... he added nothing in on it....