Did we ever have a thread on Jones Vs Mayweather?

[JonesJrMayweather]

roy wins easy...mosley and judah neither had one punch kayo power...jones did in his prime both to the head and body...floyd would not survive after roy landed on him...

Now I'm a big Jones fan, so I don't want to take away anything from such a great fighter.
But a counter arguement could be made that Jones did not have the chin of Mosley or the skill set of Judah.

I believe if we go pound for pound Mayweather could handle him.

In saying that lets just see Mayweather Pacquiao for real.

[QUOTE=hitmandonny;891864]

Well said on the Pacquiao Mayweather issue...The other I dont see it.....

Roy was tooo damn fast...He hit too damn hard...he embaressed too many not decent fighters but HOF fighters.....His chin then was not shakey or if it was that as well just adds to the fact he was so good noone even had the chance to test it...

Hopkins, Tate, Toney, Paz, McCallum, Hill all ATG all HOF bound all dangerous when Roy beat them handily......Finished those who he did when he wanted...As far as the skillset of Judah?...Zab has mental breakdowns deciding to buy one or two ply bathroom tissue so the skills are only good when used....I have top go with Roy by KO.....IMO he waits for Floyd to try and counter times him drops him Floyd gets up Roy too quick to allow him to hold and catches him again for the stoppage as Floyd tries to grab on.....If he tries the high defense Roy breaks the body down....

Ask Virgil Hill how hard Roy bangs the body

Zab Judah never had the mental game, and at times FMJ struggled to anticipate the speed, and Shane Mosley whilst still dangerous. Was old and had been inactive for over a year.

Put it this way James Toney used shoulder roll like FMJ, and was also a master counter puncher. Yet he was embarrassed over 12 rounds, FMJ couldn't stand in the pocket vs RJJ, nor could he be the aggressor because RJJ hit too damn hard.

Hey Guys, I hope you don't mind I reply with one post to both of these.
Roy was amazing- gifted in every department, He was incredible.

But when matching up these hypothetical fights and trying to solve the p4p puzzle I always ask myself who's attributes would I rather have myself.
I'll give them relatively equal or similar levels of athleticism, intelligence and ring generalship.

So would I prefer;
Roy's speed and power
or
Mayweather's defensive skills and precision.


So maybe this is the boxing idealist in me, but I would prefer the more polished skill set and precise boxing.
The idea of pugilism is skills over physicality so out of sheer stubborness I refuse to pick Roy

TOP QUOTE: Well who was it that rocked Jones in his prime that wasn't a naturally bigger man than him? He was only hurt twice and that was 15 years into the sport. Yeah Lou dropped him but he got right up and was more pissed at himself than anything for getting hit with the shot, but he clearly wasn't hurt...and text book skillset no jones didnt have it..but being an extremely smart or having a stable boxing brain is something Judah never possessed so what good is it to have those skills but cant use them to optimum performance? RJJ vs FLoyd, RJJ chin would never come into question...

BOTTOM QUOTE: As someone already mentioned RJJ rarely lost a round, which means he rarely lost focus. Even against the guys people dont give him credit for. RJJ won his fights in terms of rounds by the largest margin possibly in history. I don't think people really realize how incredible that is. For 49 fights over 15 years the closest anyone had been was a 116-112 UD against BHOP. Roy's skills were polished to a point wear they seemed natural and exclusive to him. Floyd's style can be taught to anyone, just look at little cashflow diaz', or even floyd senior for that matter. It's about how those skills are applied as floyd says "we hit the bag the same, we all jump rope the same" etc etc but in ring can you use them the way he does, which point to brain power and I think RJJ would out think him, not to mention RJJ really had a lot of power, and even more speed and reflex...I like floyd equally as RJJ, but ROY would win...