it seems to amaze me how terribly senior julio cesar chavez can be so underrated! the man did incredible things that might never be duplicated, ever! not only was he a great fighter, but he dominated almost everybody he ever fought. the only times he struggled and lost was late in his career when he was fighting opponents much younger than he, or when he, at an advanced age, was going up in weight!

what chavez sr. did is truly remarkable when you consider these facts:

- overall record: 107-6-2, 86 KO's
- 3 time division champion
- 26 years, 7 months as a pro
- 27 successful title defenses (all-time best)
- 89-0-1 75 KO's BEFORE suffering first career pro loss
- 3 time division champion BEFORE suffering first career pro loss
- 23 successful title defenses BEFORE suffering first career loss
- 9 years as world champion BEFORE suffering first career loss
- fought 15 years as a pro BEFORE suffering first career loss
- 31-4-2 22 KO's in title fights (37), (all-time best)
- 16 successful title defenses as jr. welterweight champion (all-time best)
- 15-4-2 vs. world champions (current or former)
- Fought 5 hall of famers (7 total fights)

anybody who doesn't think these accomplishments are truly remarkable is either hiding under a rock or truly dislikes him.

i believe he is probably between 12-15 on the all-time p4p list. many historians have him as high as 17 with a few have him in the top 10.